Let me ask you something, Matthew. Knowing that Israelis call themselves Jews, if you oppose their genocide of Palestinians, why do you still call yourself a Jew? Furthermore, Palestinians are Semites while most zionists are not. If you oppose zionism, what needs to happen for you to realize what anti-Semitism actually is?
What was it that persuaded you that Gibson's movie was "Antisemitic"? If you didn't see it right off, someone had to explain it to you.
I have not watched the movie, and I won't. I find these "religion tributes" to be boring as hell once I realize that the story is all about making one religious group or another "superior". I liked Dick's book "The Man in the High Castle", but the movie representation concentrating on the racial|moral superiority of Jews was disappointing.
Well, the way I see it "Jews" (as in all Jews), have 3 problems
1) the Zionists -- which should probably be divided into several subgroups
2) the whiners -- like Messing who are so infected with tales of anti-Semitism they believe everything is anti-Semitic
3) the Jewish Mob -- Meyer Lansky, Las Vegas founding to launder Mexican Drug Money, the murders of JFK and RFK.
You are discussing the Zionists but only in relation to your support of Mamdani. It comes across as if you are discussing the virtues of decaffeinated coffee. You leave it up to Mamdani to criticize the Zionist. Why?
"One can reasonably agree or disagree with these specific policy proposals."
Huh?
• no mention of anyone starving to death, just pass over "genocide" as if it is OK
• no mention of the random attacks on elderly Palestinians
• nothing about Iran
• nothing about the hell Syria has become
• nothing about AIPAC
In the end, it just comes across as "we Jews ain't so bad so leave us alone".
I pretty much did until 7 Oct 2023. Since then I have had to remind myself over and over again of how much I admire Aaron Mate and Max Blumenthal and Norman Finkelstein.
Then I started reminding myself of those "Crazies from the Pentagon Basement" (GHWB) who formed PNAC and turned it into a crusade for American Empire to disguise that it was really a quest for a "Greater Israel". The PNAC group that claimed American needed a "new Pearl Harbor" to wake the self-satisfied population to the realities of the world. They provided one on 9/11.
What was it that Jake Sullivan said to Hillary about "Don't worry, al Qaeda is on our side now."
Then Tony Blinken...
I dunno what to say. But "Jews" have a problem. Don't blame me for thinking otherwise. I spent my entire life giving Jews a break because of the WWII extermination camps. And now Jews seem to think "turnabout is fair play". Don't give me any excuses about how it is Zionists. The divide between Zionist and Jew is paper thin for me. If you want to prove otherwise, that's on you. Your protestations that "I am not a Zionist" means nothing to me.
Your problem. Fix it -- without your Jewish Billionaires forcing the resignations of people who protest the Palestinian Genocide.
I gave Jews a break for over 50 years. That is now over.
People like you, who think of Jews as a monolith and advocate collective responsibility, are indeed anti-Semitic.
If you truly wanted to help the Palestinians, you’d understand that peddling bigotry against Jews plays right into the hands of Netanyahu and his ilk.
It’s also illogical to the point of idiocy. Regardless of your ethnic or religious background, I assure you there are people who share that heritage who do things you oppose but cannot stop. You have no more control over them than most Jews have over the Israeli government.
If you disagree with that last statement, that isn’t simply a different opinion. You’re factually wrong about millions of people you don’t know and don’t understand, on the basis of your biased interpretation of their background.
I don't think of Jews as a monolith. I think of them as a cult.
When I say "Jews have a problem", the response is to always blame me.
You blame me that Israel calls itself a Jewish state;
You blame me that the Jewish mob exists;
You blame me that the Jewish Billionaires are persecuting pro-Palestinian protestors.
Stop telling me YOUR problem is my problem.
There are plenty of Jews who have made it clear that their worst enemy is other Jews.
Norm Colman murdered Paul Wellstone.
But rather than deal with it, you blame me for your continuing failure. Just another imitation Michael Corleone with dreams of high ideals but loyalty to the faith is more important.
I have no specific heritage with anyone on the planet other than being human. Any identity I have is forced upon me by others -- like you. I acknowledge there are people I cannot control. Obama, Hillary, Trump, Reagan, Bush. GHWB (a despicable man) specifically blamed the Jewish Lobby for his loss to Clinton. Monica was a Mossad asset. From that point on the Jewish Lobby has been taking more and more control over American polity.
Being a Jew is like being a member of a Biker Gang (or a cult). You ignore the crimes committed which make your life easier. You are the ultimate "sell-out". JFK and RFK tried to remove that cancer and they were murdered.
If you want to continue to call yourself a Jew, then do something about the criminals who dominate your cult. Or, like my ancestors did several hundred years ago -- walk away.
In short, you profit from the criminal activity of your cult and you turn a blind eye.
You hate being a Jew but think its "the others" fault.
If you claim to not be antisemitic while simultaneously seeking the elimination of the only geographic safe haven Jews have, you are an antisemite. Without Israel, we are back in 1939, stateless and defenseless.
Idiots like Messing will gladly ignore the fact that the guy we support in running Syria was actually in terrorist groups.
Instead this asshat calls a politician a jihadist?
Moronic IDIOCRACY
Gee was that one of the terrorist groups that Anthony Blinken was supporting?
Edit: I have to point out that Anthony Blinken is a Jew. So Matthew, what do you have to say about that?
Couldn't have said it better! Thank you for speaking out and speaking the truth.
Let me ask you something, Matthew. Knowing that Israelis call themselves Jews, if you oppose their genocide of Palestinians, why do you still call yourself a Jew? Furthermore, Palestinians are Semites while most zionists are not. If you oppose zionism, what needs to happen for you to realize what anti-Semitism actually is?
See my response to John.
What was it that persuaded you that Gibson's movie was "Antisemitic"? If you didn't see it right off, someone had to explain it to you.
I have not watched the movie, and I won't. I find these "religion tributes" to be boring as hell once I realize that the story is all about making one religious group or another "superior". I liked Dick's book "The Man in the High Castle", but the movie representation concentrating on the racial|moral superiority of Jews was disappointing.
Well, the way I see it "Jews" (as in all Jews), have 3 problems
1) the Zionists -- which should probably be divided into several subgroups
2) the whiners -- like Messing who are so infected with tales of anti-Semitism they believe everything is anti-Semitic
3) the Jewish Mob -- Meyer Lansky, Las Vegas founding to launder Mexican Drug Money, the murders of JFK and RFK.
You are discussing the Zionists but only in relation to your support of Mamdani. It comes across as if you are discussing the virtues of decaffeinated coffee. You leave it up to Mamdani to criticize the Zionist. Why?
"One can reasonably agree or disagree with these specific policy proposals."
Huh?
• no mention of anyone starving to death, just pass over "genocide" as if it is OK
• no mention of the random attacks on elderly Palestinians
• nothing about Iran
• nothing about the hell Syria has become
• nothing about AIPAC
In the end, it just comes across as "we Jews ain't so bad so leave us alone".
I pretty much did until 7 Oct 2023. Since then I have had to remind myself over and over again of how much I admire Aaron Mate and Max Blumenthal and Norman Finkelstein.
Then I started reminding myself of those "Crazies from the Pentagon Basement" (GHWB) who formed PNAC and turned it into a crusade for American Empire to disguise that it was really a quest for a "Greater Israel". The PNAC group that claimed American needed a "new Pearl Harbor" to wake the self-satisfied population to the realities of the world. They provided one on 9/11.
What was it that Jake Sullivan said to Hillary about "Don't worry, al Qaeda is on our side now."
Then Tony Blinken...
I dunno what to say. But "Jews" have a problem. Don't blame me for thinking otherwise. I spent my entire life giving Jews a break because of the WWII extermination camps. And now Jews seem to think "turnabout is fair play". Don't give me any excuses about how it is Zionists. The divide between Zionist and Jew is paper thin for me. If you want to prove otherwise, that's on you. Your protestations that "I am not a Zionist" means nothing to me.
Your problem. Fix it -- without your Jewish Billionaires forcing the resignations of people who protest the Palestinian Genocide.
I gave Jews a break for over 50 years. That is now over.
People like you, who think of Jews as a monolith and advocate collective responsibility, are indeed anti-Semitic.
If you truly wanted to help the Palestinians, you’d understand that peddling bigotry against Jews plays right into the hands of Netanyahu and his ilk.
It’s also illogical to the point of idiocy. Regardless of your ethnic or religious background, I assure you there are people who share that heritage who do things you oppose but cannot stop. You have no more control over them than most Jews have over the Israeli government.
If you disagree with that last statement, that isn’t simply a different opinion. You’re factually wrong about millions of people you don’t know and don’t understand, on the basis of your biased interpretation of their background.
In short: You’re an ant-Semite.
There it is.
I don't think of Jews as a monolith. I think of them as a cult.
When I say "Jews have a problem", the response is to always blame me.
You blame me that Israel calls itself a Jewish state;
You blame me that the Jewish mob exists;
You blame me that the Jewish Billionaires are persecuting pro-Palestinian protestors.
Stop telling me YOUR problem is my problem.
There are plenty of Jews who have made it clear that their worst enemy is other Jews.
Norm Colman murdered Paul Wellstone.
But rather than deal with it, you blame me for your continuing failure. Just another imitation Michael Corleone with dreams of high ideals but loyalty to the faith is more important.
I have no specific heritage with anyone on the planet other than being human. Any identity I have is forced upon me by others -- like you. I acknowledge there are people I cannot control. Obama, Hillary, Trump, Reagan, Bush. GHWB (a despicable man) specifically blamed the Jewish Lobby for his loss to Clinton. Monica was a Mossad asset. From that point on the Jewish Lobby has been taking more and more control over American polity.
Being a Jew is like being a member of a Biker Gang (or a cult). You ignore the crimes committed which make your life easier. You are the ultimate "sell-out". JFK and RFK tried to remove that cancer and they were murdered.
If you want to continue to call yourself a Jew, then do something about the criminals who dominate your cult. Or, like my ancestors did several hundred years ago -- walk away.
In short, you profit from the criminal activity of your cult and you turn a blind eye.
You hate being a Jew but think its "the others" fault.
Own up to the crimes.
Stop making excuses.
If you claim to not be antisemitic while simultaneously seeking the elimination of the only geographic safe haven Jews have, you are an antisemite. Without Israel, we are back in 1939, stateless and defenseless.